# Buttons with menus **URL:** \ **Category:** Instruments\ **Created:** [July 30, 2021, 4:22am UTC](https://forum.electra.one/t/buttons-with-menus/863 "2021-07-30T04:22:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![marzzz](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.electra.one/marzzz/32/459_2.png) [@marzzz](https://forum.electra.one/u/marzzz)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 4:22am UTC](https://forum.electra.one/t/buttons-with-menus/863/1 "2021-07-30T04:22:19Z")
I recently bought Cherry Audio’s Memorymode, and have started to create a preset. They have a pretty cool MIDI Learn function where you can see lists of assigned controller numbers, make changes, etc. I can handle the straightforward knobs and regular buttons (and a big thank you to SmartBits, I learned a few things by studying your posted presets!), but I am stuck on trying to figure out how to control a button where you can select and hold to get a menu. For example I can assign a CC button to turn Poly Mode on/off, but there does not appear to be a way to select the individual menu choices (no assignable MIDI values) once you click on it. Please see attached; any ideas would be appreciated, but I am thinking this might be an example of something that would just have to be selected from the Memorymode plugin itself. Thanks! ![Screen Shot 2021-07-29 at 8.59.49 PM](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/uploads/electraone/original/1X/13ff526b9e22bbc0f9e9c57b599ea58b4d3361d0.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![thetechnobear](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.electra.one/thetechnobear/32/134_2.png) [@thetechnobear](https://forum.electra.one/u/thetechnobear)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 1:08pm UTC](https://forum.electra.one/t/buttons-with-menus/863/2 "2021-07-30T13:08:48Z")
its not uncommon for some synths/vsts to have **some** values that are not controllable via automation, midi learn, or cc… usually its items the developers do not consider to be ‘perfomance’ controls. I dont have this synth… but perhaps its just something cherry audio do not support via thier midi learn function? if its a VST, you could look to see if in your DAW it appears as an automation/parameter on the vst. if it does, then you could use the DAWs midi learn to control it. (though Ive a suspicion it probably is not exposed as a vst parameter either 😉 ) your best bet is to ask Cherry Audio themselves. as I said, its probaby just something they thought noone would need … so may be able to implement it in a future release? btw: I think the thread title is a bit misleading … there is nothing really generic about midi learn on vsts, and so about learning ‘buttons with menus’, its very specific to this one particular vst/synth - it may well work on others. the only perhaps ‘common’ element to this, is really you would not (as a designer) put performance parameters on a menu like this… so as above, this would mean they’d also be less likely to be mappable. ---
**Author:** ![marzzz](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.electra.one/marzzz/32/459_2.png) [@marzzz](https://forum.electra.one/u/marzzz)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2021, 2:50pm UTC](https://forum.electra.one/t/buttons-with-menus/863/3 "2021-07-30T14:50:03Z")
I have a support request in to Cherry Audio, but I think I am going to take your advice and just make a simple button, in this case to select Poly vs Mono Keyboard Mode. Sometimes in a fit of OCD I try to get _every_ possible parameter represented in Electra, where just the basics would be adequate. ---
**Author:** ![marzzz](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.electra.one/marzzz/32/459_2.png) [@marzzz](https://forum.electra.one/u/marzzz)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2021, 1:45am UTC](https://forum.electra.one/t/buttons-with-menus/863/4 "2021-08-02T01:45:07Z")
Update: Cherry Audio have gotten back to me and told me accessing menus via MIDI is currently not possible. I have uploaded a preset, but left in the “inactive” List Faders for now.