# DrivenByMoss for Bitwig and Reaper **URL:** \ **Category:** General discussion\ **Created:** [January 6, 2023, 1:13pm UTC](https://forum.electra.one/t/drivenbymoss-for-bitwig-and-reaper/1830 "2023-01-06T13:13:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![martin](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.electra.one/martin/32/145_2.png) [@martin](https://forum.electra.one/u/martin)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 1:13pm UTC](https://forum.electra.one/t/drivenbymoss-for-bitwig-and-reaper/1830/1 "2023-01-06T13:13:33Z")
The latest version of DrivenByMoss fully integrates Electra One. Jürgen even made an introduction video. Please find it at: [![](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/uploads/electraone/original/2X/9/955442aa97c1c82725fcace3256547be3111e9aa.jpeg "Electra One controller - Supported now in Bitwig Studio and Cockos Reaper") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlTsr-EXtt8) The integration follows the opensource spirit. I think tremendous amount of effort has been put into this by Jürgen. And the very same counts for @jhh work on Ableton and @joris.roling’s Bitwig preset. I am very thankful for that as I would never be able to develop anything like that. ---
**Author:** ![Abbes](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.electra.one/abbes/32/989_2.png) [@Abbes](https://forum.electra.one/u/Abbes)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 4:50pm UTC](https://forum.electra.one/t/drivenbymoss-for-bitwig-and-reaper/1830/2 "2023-01-06T16:50:22Z")
OMG ! I l Love Moss!!! I love Moss, i love Martin and i Love Stray (Clyphx) ! you are the dream team ! The Music world is better with you !! ---
**Author:** ![Abbes](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.electra.one/abbes/32/989_2.png) [@Abbes](https://forum.electra.one/u/Abbes)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 4:53pm UTC](https://forum.electra.one/t/drivenbymoss-for-bitwig-and-reaper/1830/3 "2023-01-06T16:53:40Z")
@Martin … You know the concequence of Moss making a video off the E1… A LoT MORE DEMAND !!! 🤩 😍So mutch more !! I bought bitwig Because of Moss in fact… 😁 . He makes such an incredible job with the push 2 ---
**Author:** ![Abbes](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.electra.one/abbes/32/989_2.png) [@Abbes](https://forum.electra.one/u/Abbes)\ **Post date:** [January 6, 2023, 4:57pm UTC](https://forum.electra.one/t/drivenbymoss-for-bitwig-and-reaper/1830/4 "2023-01-06T16:57:02Z")
And i Love Dillon Bastan … You 4 are incredible guyz who inspire and make originals things exists for a lot of music peoples !!! Thanks !!! ---
**Author:** ![dstengle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@dstengle](https://forum.electra.one/u/dstengle)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2023, 1:25am UTC](https://forum.electra.one/t/drivenbymoss-for-bitwig-and-reaper/1830/5 "2023-01-25T01:25:49Z")
Is there a way for a preset developer to control the size and highlighting of the group header? I find it disorienting to use the bank navigation and have the top row get dimmed. It is overall a pretty amazing experience with the dynamic preset handling. ---
**Author:** ![moss](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.electra.one/moss/32/1528_2.png) [@moss](https://forum.electra.one/u/moss)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2023, 9:37pm UTC](https://forum.electra.one/t/drivenbymoss-for-bitwig-and-reaper/1830/6 "2023-02-16T21:37:34Z")
DrivenDrivenByMoss 19.2 is out with lots of goodies for the Electra One! Get it from [https://mossgrabers.de](https://mossgrabers.de) - Requires Firmware 3.1! - New: Labels for parameter values are now set. - New: Knob touch states are now available which allows smoother value updates and automation touch mode to work. - New: Play position and tempo can now be changed with knobs. - New: Replaced Cue Volume with Play Position on all pages. Cue Volume is now available on the Transport page. - New: Added a Session mode for launching scenes/clips and more. - New: Quick navigation between pages by touching 3 knobs (see the manual). - New: Jump to a specific Electra One synthesizer preset for editing the plugin in focus. The preset must have the same name as the preset. [![](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/uploads/electraone/original/2X/6/6a097875acffc6ec073dd27182aa7d3aa8b0a1a2.jpeg "Electra One - Session Mode, quick page changes, touch automation and more (Bitwig / Reaper)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NzuzuDTX8w) Enjoy! ---
**Author:** ![studiobischof](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.electra.one/studiobischof/32/430_2.png) [@studiobischof](https://forum.electra.one/u/studiobischof)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2023, 11:21pm UTC](https://forum.electra.one/t/drivenbymoss-for-bitwig-and-reaper/1830/7 "2023-02-16T23:21:44Z")
Yeah @moss, so cool that you are digging the Electra and inspire new ways of using it with Bitwig! The knob touch gestures are an awesome way to access more functions fast - like special moves with a game controller 🥳 A shift gesture for tiny (14bit) volume and pan movements would also be great. Maybe Martin will open up the hardware knobs for other functions in the next firmware. @martin It would be cool to have per page (or preset) settings for the visual row indicator. I like the dim variant on pages, but with the moss preset pages they make less sense. The same goes for activating screen buttons via touch when switching via touch in an inactive row. This could be deactivated for the dim mode, so you don’t have to care where you touch in the row for switching… Great stuff! ---
**Author:** ![moss](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.electra.one/moss/32/1528_2.png) [@moss](https://forum.electra.one/u/moss)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 8:31am UTC](https://forum.electra.one/t/drivenbymoss-for-bitwig-and-reaper/1830/8 "2023-02-17T08:31:26Z")
The “normal” knobs will be improved as soon as there is a new relative knob element (or as an option for the existing fader element. ---
**Author:** ![jhh](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.electra.one/jhh/32/951_2.png) [@jhh](https://forum.electra.one/u/jhh)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2023, 10:51am UTC](https://forum.electra.one/t/drivenbymoss-for-bitwig-and-reaper/1830/9 "2023-02-17T10:51:07Z")
Is this relative CC already documented somewhere? (@Martin) ---
**Author:** ![martin](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.electra.one/martin/32/145_2.png) [@martin](https://forum.electra.one/u/martin)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2023, 9:57am UTC](https://forum.electra.one/t/drivenbymoss-for-bitwig-and-reaper/1830/10 "2023-02-20T09:57:29Z")
@jhh, I have not added it to the official docs as it is not 100% finished. Right now, there is this special “relative” control type. This will be extended so that the relative CC can be used as a message type for other controls (such as faders, lists). Of course, for these, it will be responsibility of the host software (remote script, app, whatever) to set the absolute value and text value for that control upon receipt of the relative message. This is what is supported now: ```auto control.type = "relative" control.value.message.type = "relcc" control.value.message.signMode = ["twosComplement", "signBit", "signBit2", "binOffset"] ``` the sign mode is much inspired by Renoise implementation. ie. ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/uploads/electraone/original/2X/6/66f5a4b29fcde87d12884a0e688c8a760435a275.png) Even though Electra internally has information about the relative speed (rate) of change, +1/-1 increments are sent only now. This will be also improved in the upcoming version. Pls let me know if this helps. ---
**Author:** ![martin](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.electra.one/martin/32/145_2.png) [@martin](https://forum.electra.one/u/martin)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2023, 10:08am UTC](https://forum.electra.one/t/drivenbymoss-for-bitwig-and-reaper/1830/11 "2023-02-20T10:08:16Z")
> [@moss](#): > > DrivenDrivenByMoss 19.2 is out with lots of goodies for the Electra One! Great work! I like it. I had to stay away from the work recently. Things are better now so I am going to finalize my work on 3.2 as well as I will review your emails / github issues. I am sorry for the delay. ---
**Author:** ![moss](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.electra.one/moss/32/1528_2.png) [@moss](https://forum.electra.one/u/moss)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2023, 7:00pm UTC](https://forum.electra.one/t/drivenbymoss-for-bitwig-and-reaper/1830/12 "2023-02-20T19:00:21Z")
Here is a little hotfix 19.2.1: - New: The last active mode is restored when returning from a different preset. - Fixed: Values were still set in other presets when changes appear in the DAW. - Fixed: Mode did not update the values when jumping back from a different preset. Get it from [https://mossgrabers.de](https://mossgrabers.de) Enjoy! ---
**Author:** ![moss](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.electra.one/moss/32/1528_2.png) [@moss](https://forum.electra.one/u/moss)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2023, 4:00pm UTC](https://forum.electra.one/t/drivenbymoss-for-bitwig-and-reaper/1830/13 "2023-02-23T16:00:47Z")
Thanks to @martin , the issue with the missing Track headers is resolved. Somehow the LUA function got lost in the template. Until the next DrivenByMoss release, here is the fixed version: > ---
**Author:** ![martin](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.electra.one/martin/32/145_2.png) [@martin](https://forum.electra.one/u/martin)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2023, 4:05pm UTC](https://forum.electra.one/t/drivenbymoss-for-bitwig-and-reaper/1830/14 "2023-02-23T16:05:13Z")
Hi @moss, why not to share the Bitwig preset on the app.electra.one? I think it would make it easier for users to use it. Just my two cents… ---
**Author:** ![moss](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.electra.one/moss/32/1528_2.png) [@moss](https://forum.electra.one/u/moss)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2023, 4:20pm UTC](https://forum.electra.one/t/drivenbymoss-for-bitwig-and-reaper/1830/15 "2023-02-23T16:20:59Z")
Yeah, was thinking about it. But not fully sure about version tracking. I think it is easier to store them with the related software version in case people use older versions. ---
**Author:** ![martin](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.electra.one/martin/32/145_2.png) [@martin](https://forum.electra.one/u/martin)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2023, 4:28pm UTC](https://forum.electra.one/t/drivenbymoss-for-bitwig-and-reaper/1830/16 "2023-02-23T16:28:01Z")
the web app supports simple scheme for versions. ie. one preset may have multiple annotated versions. ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/uploads/electraone/original/2X/7/7beda37da5ac2d4092c5627dff8e9525a1967e6f.png) I think it is wise to keep the .eproj file in your distribution. But this extra bit would make the Bitwig preset would allow users to work with it as with other presets. In your workflow, you would just import your eproj file as a new revision to the preset and added an annotation. ---
**Author:** ![schabtach](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.electra.one/schabtach/32/2114_2.png) [@schabtach](https://forum.electra.one/u/schabtach)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2023, 9:06pm UTC](https://forum.electra.one/t/drivenbymoss-for-bitwig-and-reaper/1830/17 "2023-06-12T21:06:17Z")
FWIW the first thing I’m going to do with my E1 would probably work better with relative control-change messages, so consider this another vote for that feature. Also, since we’re in the appropriate topic, it was @moss who introduced me to the E1 in the first place via his demonstration video, so buy him a beer or something because that led to the pre-order of two mkII units. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![martin](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.electra.one/martin/32/145_2.png) [@martin](https://forum.electra.one/u/martin)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2023, 9:15pm UTC](https://forum.electra.one/t/drivenbymoss-for-bitwig-and-reaper/1830/18 "2023-06-12T21:15:14Z")
@schabtach maybe, give me and @moss a few days to finish something. It is the next thing we want to release for the bitwig extension. The idea is to make it possible to use relative control change messages with standard controls such as faders, pads, etc. ---
**Author:** ![schabtach](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.electra.one/schabtach/32/2114_2.png) [@schabtach](https://forum.electra.one/u/schabtach)\ **Post date:** [June 12, 2023, 9:18pm UTC](https://forum.electra.one/t/drivenbymoss-for-bitwig-and-reaper/1830/19 "2023-06-12T21:18:14Z")
That would be fabulous, thank you. No rush, though, I still have a lot to learn and play with. ---
**Author:** ![icaria36](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.electra.one/icaria36/32/2749_2.png) [@icaria36](https://forum.electra.one/u/icaria36)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2023, 2:18pm UTC](https://forum.electra.one/t/drivenbymoss-for-bitwig-and-reaper/1830/20 "2023-06-14T14:18:58Z")
> [@schabtach](#): > > it was @moss who introduced me to the E1 in the first place via his demonstration video Same here! 🙂 I have this idea (abstract so far) about combining the E1 with a Launchpad for deep Bitwig integration, but I’m holding on the Launchpad until I get the E1 and see how far I get with it comfortably before adding another controller. [Next page](https://forum.electra.one/t/drivenbymoss-for-bitwig-and-reaper/1830.md?page=2)