# Studio Electronics SE-3X SySex **URL:** \ **Category:** Instruments\ **Created:** [November 14, 2024, 1:45pm UTC](https://forum.electra.one/t/studio-electronics-se-3x-sysex/3372 "2024-11-14T13:45:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![NewIgnis](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.electra.one/newignis/32/767_2.png) [@NewIgnis](https://forum.electra.one/u/NewIgnis)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 7:20pm UTC](https://forum.electra.one/t/studio-electronics-se-3x-sysex/3372/21 "2024-11-23T19:20:39Z")
Ha, there might be another explanation: sometimes synths have the ability to spontaneously send the sysex dump, when they receive a program change. It might be this can be set up in the global settings, but I suspect one can request such behaviour as well… via Sysex. Do check if the editor doesn’t send out some kind of request at the start of a session… ---
**Author:** ![kiwigrass](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.electra.one/kiwigrass/32/4983_2.png) [@kiwigrass](https://forum.electra.one/u/kiwigrass)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 7:42pm UTC](https://forum.electra.one/t/studio-electronics-se-3x-sysex/3372/22 "2024-11-23T19:42:25Z")
I’m now certain the editor is only sending a sysEx patch dump when changing patches if it is a patch with unsaved edits. These are highlighted on the editor and it only occurs the first time I select an edited patch. Once it is sent when I go back to that patch it is not sent again - because it is already in the synths memory. The editor also sends a patch sysEx when I ask it to load a patch from the patch folder. Or when I upload a whole bank it sends a huge sysEx message with all the patches of that bank. I will investigate if there is an initial message on startup. But I haven’t seen one so far. ---
**Author:** ![markus.schloesser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@markus.schloesser](https://forum.electra.one/u/markus.schloesser)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2024, 11:25pm UTC](https://forum.electra.one/t/studio-electronics-se-3x-sysex/3372/23 "2024-11-23T23:25:30Z")
When I first started up my editor I had to request all patches from the atc-x, there was a “get” for that. Might be that SE synths can only get and be send the whole banks ---
**Author:** ![markus.schloesser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@markus.schloesser](https://forum.electra.one/u/markus.schloesser)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 1:57am UTC](https://forum.electra.one/t/studio-electronics-se-3x-sysex/3372/24 "2024-11-24T01:57:27Z")
looked again at the manual, and for the ATC-X at least you have to right click on the patch number and then have the option to request. Hopefully the same for the SE-3Xß ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/uploads/electraone/original/2X/8/830ae779be3b5e163d5c66df595936745a06b0a1.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![NewIgnis](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.electra.one/newignis/32/767_2.png) [@NewIgnis](https://forum.electra.one/u/NewIgnis)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 9:13am UTC](https://forum.electra.one/t/studio-electronics-se-3x-sysex/3372/25 "2024-11-24T09:13:10Z")
I checked the sysex comms on my SE02: After the header ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/uploads/electraone/original/2X/1/1850feeaa70376ce5b1ca1e5a8952b0084dcd4db.png) comes the command or the response: - command 11h is met by a 12h response And there are 4 requests I send out ```auto midi.sendSysex (devPort, {0x41, 0x10, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x44, 0x11, 0x05, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x40, 0x3B}) midi.sendSysex (devPort, {0x41, 0x10, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x44, 0x11, 0x05, 0x00, 0x00, 0x40, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x40, 0x7B}) midi.sendSysex (devPort, {0x41, 0x10, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x44, 0x11, 0x05, 0x00, 0x01, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x40, 0x3A}) midi.sendSysex (devPort, {0x41, 0x10, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x44, 0x11, 0x05, 0x00, 0x01, 0x40, 0x00, 0x00, 0x00, 0x30, 0x0A}) ``` I’ll need to do some experiments to find out what each of these actually do… ---
**Author:** ![kiwigrass](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/forum.electra.one/kiwigrass/32/4983_2.png) [@kiwigrass](https://forum.electra.one/u/kiwigrass)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 3:03pm UTC](https://forum.electra.one/t/studio-electronics-se-3x-sysex/3372/26 "2024-11-24T15:03:27Z")
@markus.schloesser Thanks for looking that up. The SE-3X editor is similar. However, the option to receive is not really about sending a request message to the SE-3X. Its actually a request to the user to go and press buttons on the SE-3X 🙂 For example, ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/uploads/electraone/original/2X/c/c54e49f73894fc7b92b76afe14488c3767dfd14c.png) This further confirms my suspicion that the editor is not really doing two-way SysEx patch communication with the Synth. You can use the editor to load patches from your PC to the Synth; you can unload patches from the editor to your PC; and you can push buttons on the SE-3X to send a patch from the synth to the editor. But I’m pretty sure that you can’t send a request message to the SE-3X to do that last function (otherwise the editor would do that and wouldn’t make you physically do it on the SE-3X itself). In a perverse way this is comforting because I was losing my mind trying to find the SysEx request message. 😕 @NewIgnis thanks for SE-02 information. I had been studying that too over the last week. I have spent hours trying various versions of that request message using the SE-3X header. But to no avail. Anyway, I’m ready to move on. I will just use the snapshot tool to store the settings for my go-to patches on the SE-3X. Question: Is there a way to share those snapshots in addition to the E1 preset? [Previous page](https://forum.electra.one/t/studio-electronics-se-3x-sysex/3372.md?page=1)