Automating Electra One knobs from Live

Hello there,

I’m trying to use my Electra One Mini within a hybrid Ableton Live / Hardware setup. It’s working great when I want to send data to hardware, or control Ableton devices using the Remote script from @jhh.

The one thing I cannot figure out is if it’s possible to send automation data from Ableton to the Electra itself.

I am able to record knob movements from the Electra to Live, but when I try to map it to a knob within Ableton it will pick up the CC from that Electra knob but the knob appears greyed out within Ableton.

Does anyone know how to get this configured correctly or if it’s possible?

If you use the remote script and record the knob movements on a mapped parameter in Live, then playing it back later should also move the same knob on the E1 (provided the same device is still mapped of course).

Maybe I am misunderstanding but would this require switching presets from the loaded Hardware Preset to the Remote Script on the Electra?

So you have a hardware synth that you remote control using the E1 using a Hardware preset, and that plays notes coming from a Midi track in Ableton. And now you want to record the knob changes on the E1 within the same Midi track in Ableton, so that when you start playback the parameters change on the hardware synth (and the knob on the E1 follows those changes too). Do I understand correctly?

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Yep, that is what I’m trying to do!

For what it’s worth, this is exactly the behavior I am able to achieve with the remote script.

If I map a macro knob to a Midi CC (using the CC Control Device) and record automation the knobs on the Electra follow along just as you would expect them to.

It’s only with Hardware Presets that I don’t seem to be getting two way communication between Ableton and the Electra.

The following should work:

Load the Hardware preset to the E1 in separate slot. Create a dummy device in Ableton (probably an instrument rack). Manually MIDI map the hardware preset knobs to the dummy device dials. And manually switch presets on the E1

Integrating the hardware preset in the remote script should also be possible but is non-trivail. First store the <hardwarepreset>.epr in the userpresets folder of the remote script. Create a dummy Ableton device with the exact same name as <hardwarepreset>with all the controls you need. Then create your own <hardwarepreset>.ccmap and store it in userprests too. This is there outline. You need to figure out details yourself I’m afraid.